From this group, a class of 90 will be selected. Approximately 250 of the most qualified applicants will be invited for a personal interview conducted at Duke University Medical Center. D:

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I think you generally only have like 2 premed classes in a semester so that would be ~3 hours/day per premed class, so about 6 hours/day total? Basically, I want to know: Why rankings are meaningless, followed by rankings. ~47% (the national average) of UCB/UCLA students are admitted to medical school, which should say something..

It really depends on your natural aptitude and the class. Roughly 40% of freshmen come in wanting to be pre med, but by the time med school results come in, only about 85-100 people get in to medical school. 333 Old Chemistry Building Box 90050 Durham, NC 27708 phone: (919) 684-6221 fax: (919) 660-0488 prehealth@duke.edu Duke University Hospital, Duke Regional Hospital and WakeMed North are ranked among the best hospitals in the U.S. for starting or expanding your family.

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The students at Duke are smart, so you will have to work pretty hard to beat the curves. I am not a huge studier. It's all a great combination that medical school admissions officers like to see.

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I big reason I chose Duke over UCB/UCLA was for better medical school advising and preparation. Travel+Leisure Magazine named Duke as one of the most beautiful college campuses in the United States. Internal Candidates may also access the internal gateway via the Duke@Work self-service website under the Candidate Selection tab using their Duke NetID and password. In gen chem/orgo/cell bio (if you take cell bio), the curve is basically set so half of the class gets A/B, half gets C/D/F. Box 90496 Durham, NC 27705 Phone: (919) 684-5600 Have questions? How many hours do you put in a week studying? (DISCLAIMER: People (including some that I know) do get into med school with a C or even two if the rest of their record and MCAT are good.) 20 hours a week is just 4 hours a day. Duke Health is committed to providing needed treatment for all patients regardless of ability to pay. If you're good at math, physics is pretty much a breeze. The school has a 8% acceptance rate ranking it #1 in North Carolina for lowest rate of acceptance.Last year, 3,187 out of 41,947 applicants were admitted making Duke an extremely competitive school to get into with a very low chance of acceptance - even for applicants with the highest scores and grades. Isn't this similar to high school?

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Wow, I must have an easy schedule then.

. If you do know that you want to be a medical doctor while you’re still in high school, you should look for colleges that will prepare you well for the career ahead of you. Thus roughly 6 out of 7 kids get weeded out in the process. c) Biomedical engineering pre-med is hard! They end up getting weeded out for one or a combination of reasons: they're not smart enough, they don't work hard enough, they lack the passion, or they find passion in something else. Average ACT: 34. I was way more stressed in undergrad than I've been all year.

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I got a few questions and wondered if anyone could help with the answers. Is it difficult to achieve a 3.7+ GPA and be able to have a outside life?

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No one will ever say that the Duke Premed courses are easy. What’s it like to be pre-med at Vandy?. The Duke Office of Health Professions and Advising has such information. In accordance with the CARES Act, Duke Health has established the standard cash price of $39 for COVID-19 testing. I understand that many students may not make their intention known. On the right there are links regarding course requirements, sample schedules, etc. a) Biology The average ACT score at Duke is 34. Duke-NUS Alumni Clinical Observership (DACO) If medicine is a career that you would like to pursue, the Duke-NUS Alumni Clinical Observership (DACO) is a good springboard to gain insights into the profession. You'll work your tail off. The curve for biology/physics/biochem (if you take biochem) is more lenient. Most freshmen come in and think "alright B- average not bad, I'll just be above average and get a B or a B+." Someone graduating with a 3.5 from Duke BME program definitely gets a lot more respect than someone who graduated with a 4.0 from a state school with a mediocre program.

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Having a bad GPA at a really tough program is not necessarily a bad thing. A. There are also a ton of research opportunities, especially in the medical … The Duke-NUS Pre-Medical Module provides a select group of students a unique opportunity to better prepare themselves for entry to graduate medical programmes such as the Doctor of Medicine programme at Duke-NUS. The point of a rigorous pre-med program is to test if you really have what it takes and if you really WANT to be a doctor.

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To the OP: yes, it is definitely possible. If you want to come to Duke and get into med school afterwards, you MUST truly love what you're doing otherwise you'll be miserable for 4 years studying. The average science GPA for a premed that is accepted into med school is around a 3.5 which only includes math and science courses, and I think 3.6-7 overall. This is the amount a patient who is uninsured will pay for the COVID-19 test only. lol you must be a southerner

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33hours, you seem to hate Duke.. 2) One AAMC reports showed that there were 387 applicants from Duke who applied for medical school in 2009. Under DACO, you will be paired with a practicing doctor, who is a Duke-NUS alumnus, for a two-day taster of what their work entails. This is much, MUCH higher than the national average of ~47%. I have had good success in the medical school application process (multiple acceptances so far).

Having been offered a likely I wanted to know what I am in for. Not sure how it is at Cornell, but at Duke the hospital/med school is on campus. The vast majority of Duke students are intelligent and hardworking enough that they would have gotten into medical school had they attended a school of a lesser caliber. sciences.

That's just for ONE premed class of the total four classes you take lol.

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Going to UCB/UCLA for the sake of a better GPA will not necessarily be the best move in terms of going to medical school haha. Students get plugged into the pre-med advising program as soon as they walk on campus, and they also have incredible opportunities including health-centered study abroad programs and hands-on research experiences.. I was wondering if you may know the average # of incoming freshmen aiming for medical schools? The average science GPA for a premed that is accepted into med school is around a 3.5 which only includes math and science courses, and I think 3.6-7 overall. Its tuition is full-time: $61,170. Q. How many students make it to medical school/what happens if one gets rejected? Could you give me a list or a website of the Pre-Med requirements? If you need assistance with completing the online application, please contact the Duke Human Resource Information Center at 919-684-5600. I am an American Indian if that matters at all. The majority of students admitted to Duke University got an SAT score between 2040 - 2330, or got accepted with an ACT score in the range of 30 - 34. Office of Health Professions Advising. If you go to an easier college for the sole purpose of "I'm just here to get a good GPA for med school," you are putting all of your eggs into the pre-med basket (the very same basket that 6 out of 7 students drop out of). I don't want to get weeded out...

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That's a very good question. Does it include the scores from students who did not submit the application? But if it's another premed class, say biology, then maybe its 5. Some of these courses are math 31,32; chem 151, 152 (orgo), Bio 25,26,118; chem 21,22. Duke is the one secondary I didn't complete. Some liberal arts colleges actually have pretty darn strong science programs (not sure about Middlebury's).

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1) Was the average MCAT of 34 from all students who submitted application for medical school? [quote]

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Just remember, Duke's average MCAT is a 34.

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So, you spend a total of 12-16 hours a day studying/doing work?? The bottom line is, there are lots of people who get into med school from state schools every year. Some of these courses are math 31,32; chem 151, 152(orgo), Bio 25,26,118; chem 21,22. b) Chemistry Duke is located on a suburban campus in Durham, North Carolina. Up-to-date premed information for Duke University which is ranked as one of the top 75 Premed MD & DO feeder schools for the 2018-2020 application cycles by MedEdits Medical Admissions. 333 Old Chemistry Building Box 90050 Durham, NC 27708 phone: (919) 684-6221 fax: (919) 660-0488 prehealth@duke.edu #6: Duke Not only is Duke one of the best universities in the nation, it also offers a robust pre-med program. That means that by being average coming out of Duke, you're at the 91.2–93.6 percentile. I think everybody would agree that your childish behavior is far worse.

, Eatsalot:That's just for ONE premed class of the total four classes you take lol. It's definitely not easy, especially since most people around you are so ambitious and intelligent. d) Physics

, Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled. That said, study times vary widely. After all, if the pre-med curriculum never challenges you, you won't ever think twice about it. Premed at Duke is fairly hard, but I don't think it would be harder than at UCLA or Berkeley. I participated in a number of 'Signature Duke' programs like the FOCUS program for first-years, Duke Engage (a funded internship somewhere around the world), and more - and these really made the school feel unique. The following information describing recent candidates will allow prospective applicants to realistically assess their chances of admission, and to plan accordingly. Admission to the Duke PA Program is very competitive. The module, titled GMS1000: The Duke-NUS Pre-Med Course is taught by Duke-NUS postdoctoral fellows. It feels like Duke is constantly trying hard to provide a unique set of experiences and opportunities for students. Learn more about some of the best majors for pre-med students. This score makes Duke Extremely Competitive for ACT scores. No offense to those other kids, but we're not just studying for an accounting test, or writing a paper for our journalism class-- we're learning stuff that we're not only going to have to know for the rest of our careers, but we are going to be constantly tested and pushed to our limits within the next years of undergrad and medical school. Most pre-med students choose to major in something related to the medical field, such as Biology or Chemistry. Remember, you’re going to Duke for its excellent academics! Most incoming students are premed, but a lot of them don't really know what they're getting into, what it's really like, or if it's even worth it? It really depends on the class. I'd also be doing pre-dental/pre-optometry/pre-FBI physical sciences division, but those all involve the same classes. If you're good at memorization, biochem is no problem. If students apply without test scores, they will be individually reviewed for Pre-Med approval based on their high school academic record. I just couldn't force myself to care enough for a negligible chance of admission that I'd have to pay for. If students are submitting test scores, students must earn a 24/1180 to be pre-med/pre-dent. And so on.

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There's a lot more I could say about premed at Duke but I won't go off the deep end here.

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I'm premed here at Duke currently, so I'll answer also.

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I spend about 15-20 hours studying for pre-med classes (e.g., orgo, calc, etc). In gen chem/orgo/cell bio (if you take cell bio), the curve is basically set so half of the class gets A/B, half gets C/D/F. I'm sorry Duke did not offer you enough aid, but that doesn't mean you need to hate Duke. If you want to really make sure that you can make it to med school, just ultimately go to a school that is at or below your level with an okay science program. PRE-MEDICAL DESCRIPTION The purpose of pre-medical science course requirements is two-fold: responsibility to contact medical schools for exact course requirements. You will need to be in the top half of those classes to get A's and B's if you want to have success in the med school process. However, the bottom line is to your question is that you are definitely going to have to sacrifice some things ; how much you have to sacrifice depends on where you fall on the grading curve.

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So if I'm a pretty good science student, would I be better off doing pre-med at a highly ranked LAC like Middlebury than at Duke, Cornell, Hopkins, Notre Dame, etc.? I applied to med school last cycle, dropped premed in february, and was admitted to Yale Law School yesterday. Approximately 17,000 students are enrolled at Duke University.

How difficult is the courseload and material for some current duke pre med students? I got 2360 on my SATs and will probably graduate as valedictorian. Which brings me to my next point:

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85-90% of students who apply to medical school from Duke are admitted. I am from California. Duke prepares you VERY well.

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I know this specific question wasn't asked but I thought I'd throw out there that doing premed as a BME at Duke was quite difficult. For the 2020 incoming PA class, 4,092 CASPA applications were received. The “preparing” tab deals with what classes you should take and how else your should prepare while an undergraduate at Duke. You will need to be in the top half of those classes to get A's and B's if you want to have success in the med school process. It's primarily used by college students. The application fee at Duke University is $95. Ironically, the better/stronger the department, the tougher it is to get good grades. "Pre-med" is the term people use to show that they want to go to med school and are taking the classes they need to get there. ... Reddit's home for wholesome discussion related to pre-medical studies. Premed at Duke is fairly hard, but I don't think it would be harder than at UCLA or Berkeley. thanks!

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Question directed at Bluedevilmike heh heh.

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I was also premed at Duke. I am trying to decide between applying early decision to Columbia or Duke. The 25th percentile ACT score is … How hard is it to get into Duke and can I get accepted? Ironically, a lot of students who get weeded out at Duke in premed would have become doctors if they just went to less prestigious schools and gotten better grades due to weaker competition. Personally, I can't stand it when people have already decided they're going to become doctors before they've even taken their first college class because the vast majority of them will end up doing something else. We also provide individualized guidance, interview preparation, professional editing, and career advising for premed students and applicants to medical school, residency, fellowship and post graduate programs. I am wondering why are you lurking in the forum? Your non-refundable $100 e-check tuition deposit must be received by Thursday, April 30, 2021 by 11:59 PM, EST. Duke University can be found in Durham, NC, a nonprofit private college which focuses on only a select few programs offered. If the courses are all easy, then the science program would be hardpressed to produce high quality graduates.

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yeah, I think I could get into Cornell, Hopkins, ND, or Duke, (definitely not all), but I should probably go to Hamilton, Colgate, or something like that to be safe.

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lol speaking for one of the 6/7 getting weeded out of the pre-med major, I can tell you from first hand...you definitely need to be passionate for it.

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^yeah, pre-law wouldn't work for me. Going to UCB/UCLA for the sake of a better GPA will not necessarily be the best move in terms of going to medical school haha.

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20 hours a week is just 4 hours a day. Office of Health Professions Advising. Most freshmen come in and think "alright B- average not bad, I'll just be above average and get a B or a … There isn't actually a major called "pre-med;" pre-med is just a term to let people know you have plans to be a doctor. Duke Regional Hospital has 369 inpatient beds and offers a comprehensive range of medical, surgical and diagnostic services, including orthopedics, weight-loss surgery, women's services, and heart and vascular services, and also offers care at the Duke Rehabilitation … However, you should really enjoy your undergraduate years, so take that into account too when you decide to sign your letter of intent to register.

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It shouldn't be ironic that good science programs don't just hand out good grades left and right. Well, Duke isn’t easy. Eatsalot, correct me if I'm wrong.

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Soooo to try and clarify, a lot of this depends on

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a) your natural intelligence I see many of your trollish posts littered through the forum bashing Duke. 3) What are the numbers of students (class 2011 or 2012) from the following departments:

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This makes me laugh. The classes are hard for all majors. All my classes started to show me the uglier side of medicine that I was sheltered from in those A.P. ...To me, that's an incredible advantage. I like Duke for premed. But medical schools know this and realize that because of this, a Duke student's GPA may be artificially low. However, you have to realize the people your competing against are just as smart if not smarter than you. Get up-to-date MCAT scores, application requirements, and more from The Princeton Review. Become a Duke Pre Med. That said while it made it harder for me to get into medical school I think it prepared me very well. Guidelines for the Premedical or Predental Designation MedEdits Medical Admissions is a resource for the latest news, commentary and discussion on topics related to medical education. b) your work ethic Duke Human Resources 705 Broad St. Applying to Duke University - School of Medicine? Sure, you might get into med school, but is that what you really want? Should I go to Duke or my state school (UCLA/UCB) for the sake of a better GPA? I need to go to a school where I can get good science grades.

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Going to an easier school just because you think it'll boost your GPA for med school is pretty detestable in my opinion. It is comprised of 254 Collegiate Gothic buildings, on over 8,691 acres, which include Duke Forest. I like sports and want good weather so I am leaning towards Duke. Duke has good classes, good professors, and smart students. Just like for the SAT, Duke likely doesn't have a hard ACT cutoff, but if you score too low, your application will get tossed in the trash. Most of the students who start as pre-med are only pre-med because they don't know what else to do, plus being a doctor sounds pretty cool (harsh, but realistically pretty true). c) your aptitude towards the subject you're studying.

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If you're taking orgo, then yeah, it might be about 10 hours a week. Grade inflating school like Duke saying this to notable grade deflation school Berkeley? Medical schools are well aware of the rigor of the top programs. All the premed courses at Duke are curved to a B-. Two hundred and fifty applicants were interviewed. I got all A's and B's with probably <10 hours per week on average. Baylor will be test optional for the 2020-21 admissions cycle. That means I can easily volunteer and shadow there (just a short walk from my dorm). The School of Medicine at Duke University has an application deadline of Oct. 15. Isn't this similar to high school? By Wednesday, June 15, 2021, applicants must "Commit to Enroll" at Duke University School of Medicine and withdraw all other wait list offers from other programs. What makes the program strong is the rigor of the coursework and the quality of the instruction. All the premed courses at Duke are curved to a B-. What is the best school for premed: Cornell, Duke, Northwestern or Dartmouth?

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